TummelVision 4: Kathy Sierra on creating passionate users and you


Episode Notes

Episode 4 – Download the Show

Kathy Sierra joined us for a great conversation about her biggest passion: you. Note-worthy moments and themes:

– How do you create excellent experiences for users
– Clay Shirky’s recent rant about women, wishing they’d show more chutzpah and self-promotion
– a useful unself promotion approach to work and social media presence than “personal branding.” It’s certainly working for Kathy.
– Why follower counts aren’t the thing to pay attention to
– the iPad’s social possibilities both online and between real life and online.
– Deb quoted the Talmud tonight, Kathy Sierra Daniel Pink and me QVC. That’s range!
– Deb got a cowbell, Heather grabbed a hairbrush and Kevin rocked out
– We never wanna get ourselves free. This week’s song is so very cowbell worthy.
– Books mentioned: Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience (P.S.)– Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi (Kathy dropped his name all casual-like) and Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us
– Daniel Pink


80’s theme song: Caught Up in You

  • Thanks for these shows, I’m really happy that you’re talking about the crucial element of wetware animation 🙂 in online socializing. (Btw, in Italy where I now live, we use the verb “animare” as a rough equivalent of tummel. Etymologically it means to “give breath to” and also “to endow with a particular spirit, to give courage to”.)

    I was moved to comment in order to lobby for a correction in your collection pronunciation of tummler. It should be ˈtu̇m-lÉ™r (I hope the comment posts with the odd character set), where the “ÊŠ” is pronounced like the o’s and u in: foot, good, full.

    Rhyming it with tunnel sounds too “goyish” to my NY Jewish ears!

    In any case, keep up the good (and important) work. It is appreciated.

  • Thanks Howard. As a Jew who grew up far away from most other Jews, tummel like tunnel sounds really Jewish to me 🙂 Now that I live near NY I think I know what you mean though. Thanks for joining us.

  • I caught your reference to my comment in a subsequent show, giving me a *secret thrill* as I listened to it standing on line at the post office! Thanks, now I still have 14 minutes and 55 seconds of fame left to spend.

    Not to mention the shock and awe of hearing the right pronunciation on the lips of Elizabeth, with your endorsement of her version confirming that I’m getting through to you: 😀

    • Deb Schultz

      Funny thing is -as a jewish gal from brooklyn the really correct pronunciation my bubbe [grandma] would use is more like tooomel. Thanks for listening H.L

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