Episode Notes

“You can’t have art without resistance in the materials”

Quoting William Morris, Paul Ford explains that when he wants to learn something he goes out and finds the appropriate software. In the limits of the software you might find a community.

Twelve year olds are now saying Facebook is for old people and Heather makes a 12-year-old’s face at the thought of Facebook buying Instagram. The group discusses Instagram’s future within the walls of Facebook. Will it get dragged into the Menlo Park swamp or will it go the way of Youtube?  An almost purely mobile photo app with few features, Instagram is applauded as a less judgmental environment for people who don’t know how to shoot real photographs.

Spontaneity ensues as Andy Baio stops by.  He is the founder of Upcoming.org, a former CTO of Kickstarter.com, and author of the Waxy.org blog. Andy is a less hopeful and thinks Instagram could very well get sawed into pieces. The conversation turns to “The New Aesthetics” – a phenomenon that Andy says smells like machine vision. Paul Ford weighs in on the topic by way of Aaron Cope and Heather by way of Bruce Sterlings’ closing talk at SXSW.

Here is a link to the entire chat transcript and a highlight reel of the show via Storify!

Show links:

Facebook and Instagram: When Your Favorite App Sells Out | Paul Ford | New York Magazine

Adobe Photoshop File Formats Specification | Adobe

What The Tech Pundits Don’t Get About Facebook’s $1B Instagram Deal | Cliff Kuang | FastCoDesign

Heather’s Instagram reaction to Facebook’s acquisition

Grab Instagrams with GramGrab

Reaction Pictures & Emoticons | MyFaceWhen

Wikipedia list of Acquisitions by Facebook

Facebook is for Old People | Patrick Moorehead | Techpinions

Instagram’s Buyout: How Does It Measure Up? | Andy Baio | Waxy.org (Wired)

An Essay on the New Aesthetic | Bruce Sterling | Wired

Why the New Aesthetic isn’t about 8bit retro, the Robot Readable World, computer vision and pirates | Rev Dan Cat

The New Aesthetic | James Bridle

the new aesthetic | Aaron Straup Cope SXSW 2012

Bruce Sterlings closing talk of SXSW 2012

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Erstwhile Googler, now Facebooker Paul Adams (@padday) joins us to talk about his insights on “circles” and the relationship between real-life and online social networks.

Notes & Links

• Culture Kitchen SF

• Building a Hacker Culture in Uruguay – OSCON 2011

• Scotland Yard considered shutting down Twitter – Telegraph

• Paul Adam’s news-making slide deck – The Real Life Social Network

• Heather, Kevin, and Deb at SXSW 2012 – Social Media Influence: We Call Bullshit

• Cooking – Stack Exchange

• LinkedIn map of Kevin Marks’s professional network

• Kevin on “Tags and cognitive load”

Replay the whole back channel discussion via CoverItLive here.

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Regular TummelVision chat room contributor @Xenophrenia joins in a discussion of open source, copyright, economics, and more in this first ever “Open House” episode.  We hope to make a regular feature out of this kind of episode (our version of a call-in hour).

News and Notes:

• Kevin Marks has dubbed Deb Schultz a “knowledge bricoleur“
• Video of Kevin’s Ignite talk at Google i/o
• How to Stop Worrying and Learn to Love the Internet – Douglas Adams writing in 1999
• Tyler Cowen’s new book The Great Stagnation: How America Ate All The Low-Hanging Fruit of Modern History, Got Sick, and Will (Eventually) Feel Better
• Films by writer and chat room regular Tony Comstock
• Good Manners in the Age of Wikileaks – Slavoj Žižek in the London Review of Books
• Eli Pariser’s TED talk on the internet’s “filter bubble”

As you listen, you can replay the fascinating conversation from our live chat room here at CoveritLive.

Episode Notes

Brian Zisk is a strategist specializing in music, technology, and founder advising.  He is a pioneering social organizer in the San Francisco Bay area.  In this episode of TummelVision, Brian talks with Deb, Heather, and Kevin about CES, the continuing human importance of conferences, Quora’s imperfect community management, and the smart rules developed by antique online social networks.

Brian on Twitter: @zisk @sfmusictech @futureofmoney

Quote of the Week: “If you don’t like what someone says it’s your responsibility to not let them drive you nuts” -Brian Zisk

More links and comments from this episode:

• Paul Kedrosky on how human curators are beating search by algorithm – Curation is the New Search is the New Curation
• @debs: “So, a tummler is like a business development person who doesn’t get paid?”
• The original music and tech tummeling space – The Pho List
• Tantek Çelik‘s self-hosting with replication approach in Falcon – On Owning Your Data
• The suddenly-popular service Quora takes a clumsy approach to regulating their community – Commitment to Keeping Quora High Quality
• Principles for community health cited by Brian: “Tools not rules,” “own your words”
• The Well – an exemplary online community – sample thread mentioned by Kevin: Topic 400: State of the World 2011: Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky
• Twitter blocking as a “bozo filter” – Derek Powazek: Press the Magic Button and Dave Winer: Why you got blocked

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Blaine Cook [@blaine], founding engineer at Twitter and an open web standards wizard, joins Heather, Deb, and Kevin to talk about hopes, dreams and plans for a more open, yet more personalized Internet.

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