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Tantek Çelik is an independent technologist, writer, teacher… the notorious @t on twitter… and a vocal proponent of open web standards. In the wake of the Schema announcement, Tantek joins Heather, Kevin, and Deb to talk about the present and future of the social graph, openness, and living online.

Notes and Notes:

• Tantek’s book: HTML5 Now: A Step-by-Step Video Tutorial for Getting Started Today
• New York Times editor Bill Keller on Twitter
• NYU journalism professor Jay Rosen tweeted: Jill Abramson took six months off as Times managing editor to learn digital http://nyti.ms/denx5J She returned in five: http://bit.ly/aafNMx
• HuffPo: Bill Keller To Be Replaced By Jill Abramson As ‘New York Times’ Executive Editor
• Jaron Lanier and his book You are Not a Gadget
• YouTube Now Lets You License Videos Under Creative Commons (Remixers, Rejoice)
• One example of a “social graph” (that is, Tantek’s)
• IndieWebCamp
• About Microformats
• The Microformats crew on “how to agree on a standard“
• An example of a Microformats-based search result: http://lockerz.com/s/107152515
• Eli Pariser on The Filter Bubble
• Google, Bing, and Yahoo’s “Schema.org“
• More about RDF: http://www.w3.org/RDF/
• Cory Doctorow on “metacrap“
• Clay Shirky on The Semantic Web, Syllogism, and Worldview
• @debs: via @t “the way you make standards works is not through fiat but through community – you need agreement across silos”
• Check out the TummelVision itunes page: subscribe, download, review!

As you listen, you can replay the fascinating conversation from our live chat room here at CoveritLive.

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Andy Carvin (@acarvin) is digital strategist for National Public Radio. He has helped NPR create their pioneering online presence, coordinated multiple crisis camps, and he’s organized the PublicMediaCamp unconference. In recent months, Andy has engaged in a globalized twitter-enabled form of tummelled journalism as he has curated, fact-checked, and shared news from the Arab democratic revolutions (and other international stories).

Heather Gold writes that Andy Carvin may be the most “successful” tummler on the web:

We’ve wanted to have Andy on for some time. I got to know him a while back and noticed how involved he was in the tech community , how open and vulnerable he was on twitter about his own life and things he’s personally coped with and how much he seemed to commit to crisis camps, in which web and IT folks get together and hack on problems to help an ongoing humanitarian crisis, such as the recent earthquake in Japan.

Andy’s commitment and knowledge about the web, community and human rights all converged into a really critical moment for the web on twitter at the end of 2010 as revolution began bubbling in Tunisia. Andy tummeled the hell out of what was going on there on the ground. He then became a key point on the web and for western journalism (possibly beyond the west too, but in the spirit of Andy’s work, we could not verify this so we’re not asserting it). Andy connected first person sources, organizers, social media participants, journalists and many regular folks around the world who just became all of these things as the world was astonished by the organizing and democratic movements that swept through Tunisia, Egypt, Bahrain, Libya, Yemen and Syria.

In doing so, Andy showed by example, how to create community, connect people, verify and ask for verification about news. And rather than just being a digital strategist and community advisor at NPR, he now seems to be a journalist and a story as the web, revolution and tummelling shift what all those things mean.

Enjoy our conversation with Andy!

News and Notes

• The Huffington Pose: Using the seductive and tantalizing tricks of a modern-day courtesan, the new media mogul puts a brave new world under her spell – Hephzibah Anderson in ADWEEK
• Here Comes Everybody – Tummlers, Geishas, Animateurs and Chief Conversation Officers help us listen – Kevin Marks at Epeus’ epigone
• The Human Blog – 2006 profile of Arianna Huffington by Emily Nussbaum in New York magazine
• Conversation is the New Attention – Christopher Fahey and Timothy Meaney at A List Apart
• The “Donahue” app – “Ideas and Experiments in the Art of Presenting”
• Heather Gold on Unpresenting
• My Sarah Jane: Remembering Elisabeth Sladen – Tor.com

At 18:08 in this episode, we starting diving deep into Andy Carvin’s work. Here are some links and stories related to his global tummelling:

• We highly recommend you check out the Chirpstory transcript of twitter conversation during the recording of this episode.
• Twitter and the Anti-Playstation Effect on War Coverage – Zeynep Tufekci (@techsoc)
• Report: “Digital Natives” a Myth - Suw Charman-Anderson at ComputerWeekly.com
• Marshall Kirkpatrick on Apple, Google and other socially awkward companies – TummelVision Ep. 33, Sept. 2010

While you listen, you can follow the smart comments from our lively chat room by replaying the CoveritLive discussion.

If you’re interested in hearing more conversation with Andy, check out the supplemental discussion in episode “62.5.”

Episode Notes

After the recording of our “official” episode 62 discussion with NPR’s Andy Carvin, we continued for another 45 minutes of in-depth conversation about his work, deeper themes of connectedness, and some insights on the tools and mobile phone Andy uses in his work.

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News and Notes

• The Twitter pile-on – as aggregated by Techmeme
• A sense of bewronging – Doc Searls
• Nobodies: The New Somebodies – Josh McHugh at Forbes.com
• In The Plex: How Google Thinks, Works, and Shapes Our Lives – a new book by Steven Levy
• Jane! Stop This Crazy Thing! – Clay and Susan Griffith on “The Jetsons” and dystopia at Tor.com
• The Tragic Death of the Flip – David Pogue at The New York Times

Episode Notes

Brian Zisk is a strategist specializing in music, technology, and founder advising.  He is a pioneering social organizer in the San Francisco Bay area.  In this episode of TummelVision, Brian talks with Deb, Heather, and Kevin about CES, the continuing human importance of conferences, Quora’s imperfect community management, and the smart rules developed by antique online social networks.

Brian on Twitter: @zisk @sfmusictech @futureofmoney

Quote of the Week: “If you don’t like what someone says it’s your responsibility to not let them drive you nuts” -Brian Zisk

More links and comments from this episode:

• Paul Kedrosky on how human curators are beating search by algorithm – Curation is the New Search is the New Curation
• @debs: “So, a tummler is like a business development person who doesn’t get paid?”
• The original music and tech tummeling space – The Pho List
• Tantek Çelik‘s self-hosting with replication approach in Falcon - On Owning Your Data
• The suddenly-popular service Quora takes a clumsy approach to regulating their community – Commitment to Keeping Quora High Quality
• Principles for community health cited by Brian: “Tools not rules,” “own your words”
• The Well – an exemplary online community – sample thread mentioned by Kevin: Topic 400: State of the World 2011: Bruce Sterling and Jon Lebkowsky
• Twitter blocking as a “bozo filter” – Derek Powazek: Press the Magic Button and Dave Winer: Why you got blocked